not sure what the problem is had everything working last night and this morning the before save gets things I’ve added with user interaction but nothing from when the table is populated the first time with Sync and Watch Contract Events. I tried dropping the tables and re-adding the sync and watch plugin but i still end up not getting the pointers I assigned logs look like BeforeSave isn’t firing
hard reset of contracts and database seemed to fix it
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Good to know. Make sure to add a little more detail as well so that other devs can benefit from your success! 
Happy BUIDling!